18 Feb 2009 14:27:21 GMT
Source: Reuters
By Philip Pullella
VATICAN CITY, Feb 18 (Reuters) - Pope Benedict, underscoring the Vatican's ruling on an issue that divides Americans, told U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Wednesday that Catholic politicians and legislators cannot back abortion rights.
Pelosi, a powerful U.S. politician who is Catholic and pro-choice, has been accused by U.S. bishops in the past of misrepresenting Church teachings on abortion.
"His Holiness took the opportunity to speak of the requirements of the natural and moral law and the Church's consistent teaching on the dignity of human life from conception to natural death ..." a Vatican statement said.
It said such teaching "enjoins all Catholics, and especially legislators, jurists and those responsible for the common good of society, to work in cooperation with all men of goodwill in creating a just system of laws capable of protecting human life at all stages of its development," it said.
She met the pope briefly at the mid-point of her visit to Italy, which is where her family is originally from.
A spokesman for Pelosi said she would issue a statement later in the day about her meeting with the pope.
During the presidential campaign, American bishops accused Pelosi as well as then-Senator Joe Biden, now vice-president, of misrepresenting Church teaching on abortion. Biden is also Catholic. Both have said abortion is a personal decision. A month before the election, Archbishop Raymond Burke, a senior American in the Vatican, said the Democratic Party risked "transforming itself definitively into a 'party of death'" because of its choices on bioethical questions and abortion.
Conservative Catholics hailed him but others accused the Vatican of trying to interfere in the election.
STORM OF CRITICISM
Pelosi met a storm of criticism from conservative Catholics in August when she told a talk show that the question of exactly when life begins "shouldn't have an impact on the woman's right to choose".
She said when life began was still "an issue of controversy" in the Church and that "God has given us, each of us, a free will and a responsibility to answer for our actions."
The Church teaches that life begins at the moment of conception and ends at the moment of natural death.
In the past, both Pope Benedict and his predecessors have said that Catholic politicians cannot personally oppose abortion but publicly back abortion rights in the name of pluralism and democracy.
The Vatican says Catholic politicians should not let themselves be swayed by opinion polls and social trends.
The issue has deeply divided the Church in the United States as well as other industrialised countries, including Italy, where some Conservatives have called for Catholic politicians who back abortion rights to be excommunicated and barred from receiving communion.
Several days after his inauguration, President Barack Obama, with Pelosi's support, reversed a Bush administration ban on funding for groups abroad that provide abortion services.
Vatican officials criticised that change.
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Thanks for this grab.!!

Nice work.

The poor woman is not allowing the Holy Spirit to guide her. She is rebellious to God.
Simple as that. Anyone who says you can murder life in public should not be put on the Church Roster. They should be sent to an asylum for the insane.
In fact SSPX was excommunicated for less than this. They did not publicly say you can kill your own baby. In fact they defend, life. They in fact went as far as defending the Church from Modernism which obviouly invaded the church. This is why we have Catholics saying it is the decision of yours to take life. Rationalism.

I took an honest look at my religious life many years ago after converting and when I felt I could not accept church truths, I took myself out of the loop from receiving the Eucharist. A personal belief, and yet I honored the church teachings by not profaning the Most Holy Eucharist. If we receive holy Eucharist in any state of sin, we sow death to ourselves. Because, God is present. If you are not in a state of Grace, you are outside His will and when you receive Him this way He comes to judge you. Thus the Grace becomes a curse. People do not understand the gravity of Eucharist, they think its simple and it won't do any harm. They forget this is God you are receiving. It gets really to the point. It's not a fence straying idea that wanders as you wander, it's not human wishy washy ideas. It is God. God does not pocket Himself in your ideas. He lays the Law, if you cannot follow it, you need to bow out.

Jesus said in the Gospel "to count the cost of Following Him". He did not say my path is easy to follow. It is always contrary to the worlds ideas of life. The world rejects Heavenly life. It does not want God in the little ideas, they throw many falsehoods to keep God out. God says, lay down your life, they say no we won't, God says follow me to Life, they so no we won't. We want to say here and live in the flesh. We want to make our own rules and live and die by them. This is what they proclaim.

When we get to the point of what Jesus says, we see that the only way is through self denial and accepting on faith His words of guidance. It is after all for our Good. To save your own soul from damnation. Imagine having the Devil for the rest of eternity as your jail keeper.

Then add the endless fires that melt and roast your body and soul. This is what the reality is to those who want to live on the earth. A roasting party.

Personally speaking, the Pope should excommunicate these instantly. Then when they have seen their errors and correct themselves and if they wish to return, then the Pope can grant them, to return. I forget the latin word for undoing the ban. But they are to be made an example of what not to do and it should be done speedily. Oh, wait, why have they not been banned?
They have already caused a world wide catastrophe!

Petition the Lord. Sometimes God has to thunder in the clergy to wake them up.

Peace in Christ

I pray otherwise, but I suspect Nancy Pelosi will return home and continue as before, placing her positions in her political party and government over and above her eternal salvation.

And you know what? She'll have plenty of support among the "Catholic" clergy, and she'll continue to receive Holy Communion.

Such is the beautiful "springtime of renewal" we are all experiencing in the Church since Vatican Council 2 !!!

Should anyone doubt why we need that "DIVINE WARNING" Mirjana of Medjugorje said would serve to "WAKE US UP?"



PEACE OF OUR CHRIST

Hey too much TV perhaps? TV is not a reality show, it is a smoke screen to brainwash you. When reality hits, and the Gospel tells it like it is, "You cannot Serve God and Mammon." and Kansas ain't over there anymore, God has thundered in your soul. Yes, today we live in Media Rich world, according to the World, behind the scenes of your Newscasts lies real life. Death allover. Are you perhaps living with Dorothy? Or living in Ferry Tale(s)? Do you not see Life is being Threatened at Every Level, Hiearchy, Dwelling, Upon the Earth?

If you want an untroubled life, Heaven is the only place.

Period.

The "Fence" is not movable. You're either for Christ, or Sitting on the Fence "Lukewarm" or Cold "against" Christ. Nancy is not for Christ. She is for Death. Wake Up. She makes outrageous claims. Those who are indifferent, Sacriligeous, Outrageous.

St. Paul says: to those who go against the Church to have them delievered to Satan to be made examples that the body be destroyed but the soul saved. What does this mean? If your brother is against you, or does not obey you (who are in the Truth) you confront them. If they still do not listen, you bring witnesses, if they still do not listen you excoo them.

These are the rules set by Bishop St.Paul, who received them from Above.

She has been approached by the people, priests, clergy, Bishops, by the Pope, now it if she don't turn back, she is toast. And the error was not telling her before hand.

To be made an example, because the House of Christ cannot be ridiculed, We must always protect and keep the Holy Truths to Defend it. If it is not defended, it is not going to propogate. Where are the True Knights of Christ? The woman is not above the Church.

How much error this woman has sowed!! Too much, she is a Public Servant, not a dictator which is what she is at the moment. Dictate, dictate, dictate.... She doesn't dictate truth.


She needs to be corrected Speedily. and this is Mercy to have her excoo...

Peace in Christ

See, our First Loyalty is to "Mother Church." If this is not honored Below Heaven, you become your own judge of things. And thus Spread Errors and Heresy.

Too many Public Servants have made their first loyalty to Government.

We are Christians, this what Jesus Christ calls us. We belong to the One Holy Apostolic Church, Catholic. We are to be citizens of Heaven. To live with God Eternally. We are the Kings Children. If we live according to the world, we do not follow Christ the King, where the "line" is drawn according to our whims.

Lets move "this" truth to this far, so I can do want I want when I want.

If we are devout and loyal to Christ, we do not delineate this line by any standards.

If any one of us were in this condition as such, I'm sure your heart is not peaceful. Probably don't sleep well either. You have to think from many perspectives and not one.
How to save a far-away soul such as this? Prayer and sacrifice.

The Pope in my reference took too long. She is causing "Unbelievers" to think it is "Ok" to Kill your baby, that is it "condoned" by God. What a horrible set of messages to relay to the unwise! Mercy Lord Jesus! We do not know what we are doing.

And then when we go to a picket line to go against Abortion in the Name of God, there's one in the Public Service Condoning IT!! Ha I laugh, I really laugh, The Woman fights against life! How stupid! No Intelligence whatsoever. Lord we have profaned Your Name, Your Holy Body, Your Holy Truths! Forgive us Father. She stands in the way folks and so does Joe Biden and all the other Catholics by Name who fight against Life.

Peace in Christ.

10 Commandments to recite and embed in your noggin.

First some quick Bible History concering Gods Laws and Commandments

Exodus 24
12 And the Lord said to Moses: Come up to me into the mount, and be there: and I will give thee tables of stone, and the law, and the commandments which I have written: that thou mayst teach them.

16 And the glory of the Lord dwelt upon Sinai, covering it with a cloud six days: and the seventh day he called him out of the midst of the cloud.

17 And the sight of the glory of the Lord was like a burning fire upon the top of the mount, in the eyes of the children of Israel.

18 And Moses, entering into the midst of the cloud, went up into the mountain: and he was there forty days, and forty nights.

Exodus 20
1 And the Lord spoke all these words:
2 I am the Lord thy God, who brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
3 Thou shalt not have strange gods before me.
4 Thou shalt not make to thyself a graven thing, nor the likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or in the earth beneath, nor of those things that are in the waters under the earth.
5 Thou shalt not adore them, nor serve them: I am the Lord thy God, mighty, jealous, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me:
6 And showing mercy unto thousands to them that love me, and keep my commandments.
7 Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain: for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that shall take the name of the Lord his God in vain.
8 Remember that thou keep holy the sabbath day.
9 Six days shalt thou labour, and shalt do all thy works.
10 But on the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: thou shalt do no work on it, thou nor thy son, nor thy daughter, nor thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy beast, nor the stranger that is within thy gates.

11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, and the sea, and all things that are in them, and rested on the seventh day: therefore the Lord blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it.
12 Honour thy father and thy mother, that thou mayest be longlived upon the land which the Lord thy God will give thee.
13 Thou shalt not kill.
14 Thou shalt not commit adultery.
15 Thou shalt not steal.

16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.
17 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's house: neither shalt thou desire his wife, nor his servant, nor his handmaid, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is his.

18 And all the people saw the voices and the flames, and the sound of the trumpet, and the mount smoking: and being terrified and struck with fear, they stood afar off,
19 Saying to Moses: Speak thou to us, and we will hear: let not the Lord speak to us, lest we die.

20 And Moses said to the people: "Fear not": for God is come to prove you, and that the dread of him might be in you, and you should not sin.


First we have to come to the Mount of the Lord so God can thunder in your soul. After this you will Know what God detests.

If you have not had this experience, you won't be able to keep His commandments. Thus there are many who "have" not.

Today is it more or less numbed because of all the Modern Toys. Numbed.

Second when we are not truly doctrinized into Christianity, we will walk around like dumb animals. And this is dangerous to your soul. A Christian with no knowledge. Have to go to School and Learn about Christianity your new Life.

Have to learn what God says and keep them. This unfortunately since we live in "time" takes 'time'. But to those who persevere, and run this race, to the end, Jesus stands waiting to embrace you into His Kingdom.

Peace in Christ